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To begin it’s important for the readers to comprehend since the very conception of money dating back as far as 2000BC — money has always been a record of entitlement to another’s production. In other words money in its simplest terms is “accounting” that records, evidences & represents the value of our labour & production we ordinarily give up to each other in any exchange or sale of goods & services.
Therefore by throwing the baby (money) out with the bath water (banking) is actually throwing away the accounting altogether, which is basically removing the very thing that can evidence if we are giving up equal representations of wealth to each other from the overall pool of wealth, but likewise throwing away what can otherwise prove if someone is taking more from the overall pool of wealth than what they themselves are actually contributing or giving back to that overall pool of wealth.
In short if wasn’t for money we couldn’t identity a thief, much less even prove they’re a thief such as today’s banking system who give up no consideration of value. The only reason why banks are getting away with a monumental crime of theft is because most if not all people dont even know what money is, how its really created & what it truly represents.
Logically so long as there is just one man or women possessed by greed on this planet a moneyless society opens up the door for further exploitation, or theft of another’s production. Make no mistake only if or when mankind ever becomes perfect in every which way, bereft of all greed or desire is the day mankind might consider a moneyless system of exchange & not before. Until that day comes money is our only protection.
Sadly the proponents of a moneyless society fail to conclude it is not the money itself or debt that commits the crime against us, but purported banks that are not even banks by any definition of the word “bank” found in the dictionary.
Instead of identifying the thief (ie:bank) who is foreign to the contract or exchange of our production that subsequently steals the value of our production in a purported loan — the advocates of purported solutions such as “Zeitgeist” or “Ubuntu” are irrationally declaring all money & all debt is the problem, when the fact remains all money regardless of any misrepresentation of the debt or money itself still records, evidences & represents the value of our labour & production we GIVE UP TO EACH OTHER other in any sale, trade or transaction — where there never was or ever is any loan or borrowing.
The hidden truth that the proponents of moneyless trade are not telling you is banks or mere publishers of money do not ever create or loan us money. If they ever did they would already know what money is, how its really created & what it truly represents, which will in turn expose the flaw in their purported solution, leaving the door wide open for further exploitation, where thieves & criminals could run a muck knowing there is no method of accounting whatsoever that can otherwise prove their guilt.
Its bad enough having a method of accounting today that falsifies a debt to a thief who gives up squat — that I might add no one wants to ever address, but quite frankly throwing out the accounting (money) altogether is just asking to be robbed.
David Ardron.
Advocate / mentor, Co-founder, Co-director – Mathematically Perfected Economy™ (au)
(Published : October 02, 2017, last edit October 02, 2017)
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“In short if wasn’t for money we couldn’t identity a thief” Well technically, without money and ownership, where every request is met… thievery is eliminated. There are no thieves. A key concept behind the idea of the elimination of money is that it removes the incentives for things like theft, raising the quality of life for all by eliminating the mindset of such behaviors.
“Logically so long as there is just one man or women possessed by greed” Greed is a mental disorder brought on by an environment of scarcity. When people are deprived of goods and services their mind overcompensates and acquires “greed” as a behavior to minimize those financial security concerns. It’s, when viewed in the context of abundance, a mental disorder akin to hoarding. Hoarding, often induced, by deprivation… like the depression of the 1930’s that has had ripples in behaviors decades and generations beyond. People who are greedy, in a sane society, need help with their issues.
“represents the value of our labour & production” I think you’re unaware that the end of the age of employment is at hand and no one is going to give labor or produce anything. All minor forms of labor will be labors of love and any labor will be compensated by a complete and total meeting of all of their physical wants and needs. Compensation is not needed or requested for those whose every “monetary” desire has been satiated.
Why limit consumption when such limits imposed are unnecessary?
Hi Matthew
Thank you for your comment. It is my view, firstly, all money records, evidences & likewise represents the value of our labour & production we give up to each other. Even if you took money out of the debt altogether, for example in barter, we are still giving up a representation of wealth or value to each other in the trade, debt or transaction. Money therefore further represents that wealth or value. Money simply facilitates the need for something without the problem arising in barter, where someone might not want what you have to barter, or you might not want what they have to barter.
Secondly, the record (money/accounting) can either determine 1) if someone is not contributing to the overall pool of wealth & taking from the overall pool of wealth, possibly evidencing theft if It’s not otherwise gifted. 2) It can determine if someone is taking more than what they give up to the overall pool of wealth, again, possibly evidencing theft if It’s not otherwise gifted & 3) It can determine if we are giving up equal representations of wealth to each other, however this is not to just assume this is void of earned profit.
What I mean by “earned profit” is the value of your labour to produce whatever to sell, where the purchaser is giving a like equal measure of their labour plus the value of whatever to you on the sale.
If & only when mankind becomes void of all greed & desire, where honesty, without exception, becomes a virtue in everyone, one might conclude we can do without the record, evidence or money, but not before. Until that day comes, whether you like it or not — the accounting/money — is our very protection against thieves, Matthew.
Maybe one day it will dawn on everyone that the one & only “true debt” that exists is nothing more than an “act of giving” to each other, where there are no loans or borrowing. It certainly would be a stepping stone to money-less society, however this would not mean we wouldn’t be paying each other with our labour & production to survive. We always have & always will, so to assume the act of paying to be alive is something bad or sinister is quite nonsensical. On the contrary, It is paying a thief (ie: bank) to be alive that is bad & sinister. In this light, if you think just eradicating money tomorrow will solve corruption & greed, you’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater & leaving the door wide open for greed & corruption to manifest in its entirety without any accountability whatsoever.
David.